As you can clearly see in the scans above, each time the Infinite Mass Punch is performed, Wally's increase in "mass" is referenced, with Wally giving a clear statement for just how much his mass is being increased. Some of the best of DC Rebirth Wally West's speed feats are: In his own DC Rebirth series known as Flash Forward, Wally ran faster than the speed force, the source of his power. At least 2-C, possibly Low 1-C with Environmental Destruction Name . Carried 500,000 Korens out of Korea after a Nuclear warhead exploded without any Korean taking damage from the Nuke. I'm not disagreeing and I think he is an awesome character but the only thing everybody seems to always bring up is the IMP and I've never seen it being used on anyone besides Zm. He noted that these are not alternate realities, but the same events repeating on the same world at a different time, with no one remembering the earlier incarnation. Both are statements made by a narrator, why does the second one count more than the first one? Testing Superman Blue's speed. A nuke expands really fast. In season four, episode five of TV's Smallville, a young Clark Kent curiously encounters the future Impulse before ever crossing paths with Barry Allen or Wally West . Be honest, you do know that neither writer nor readers cares about distance time. Wally West Edit Edit source History Talk (0) Categories . For other uses of "The Flash", see The Flash (disambiguation). Below is the image: JLA (1997) #89. You are saying that Flash's distance and time do not matter when we're talking about how fast he's going, but that's how you measure every speed feat in the history of comics. And since he wastes some time for that thus this feat is again unquantifable. Using his Super-Speed powers, he wields the Speed Force and became a costumed crime-fighter. While fighting Amazo Wally stated that with Speed Force powers Amazo would kill the entire League before they knew what happened so he took his powers away from Amazo and Amazo calculated Wally West as the biggest threat in Justice League. Wally complained that he still felt like he was in Barry's shadow despite everything he had achieved and worked for while Barry was gone; while Barry admitted that because he wasn't there to see Wally grow up, he still thought of him as his sidekick and found it difficult to treat him as the man and hero he had become. However Booster and friends arrived in time and convinced Wally to clone himself, kill the clone, put the body of the clone amongst the victims, turn himself in and accept responsibility for the massacre. . On top of displaying feats faster than Barry throughout the entirety of their speedster careers, in DC Rebirth, Wally outright states that he's faster than Barry. He even specifically says he's travelling across the 4th dimension (time). He's known to zip around at an unbelievable speed and witness moments that the average . Jay and Wallace couldn't keep up and fell back to slow the Dark Flashes down, but the Darkest Knight was still gaining on Barry and Wally. Both statements are ignorant, so why is one more correct than the other? During a battle against H.I.V.E., Wally suffered from a heart attack and apparently died. Classic Wally West fans have long known that he was the fastest Flash, having witnessed him perform more feats of speed than anyone else ever has. Without his mentor, Wally took up the mantle and became the next Flash, eventually taking on Bart Allen as his sidekick. Mary West - Wally's mother. 2) so million times FTL > teleporting 93 billion lightyears in no time( more than quintillions times FTL). [15], While imprisoned for his actions at Sanctuary, Wally was recruited by Tempus Fuginaut to protect the Multiverse from the encroaching Dark Matter that had emerged from the Dark Multiverse. 5) our objective is speed not distance and time. Robert Brook writes a blog which he calls A GUIDE FOR THE BUDDING ANALOG AUDIOPHILE.. He also can't reach the speed necessary to return to his time. This bought them a respite but strained the Speed Force even further, which Barry criticized him for and the two argued about their next move. Yeah I am interested in how much past the speed of light he can go I mean I know there has been threads of this very topic but nothing really substantial evidence to support it or any actual figures. My friend said that he once went about five hundred times the light of speed, and it was stated in a panel. But the feat is perfectly quantifiable. I could even extrapolate the fact of what he does to 999 zeptoseconds (which would be the highest amount possible given his statement). Because if you think they lived, then you have to think Wally went FTL. You can get somewhere before you start moving. . He was trapped in the Speed Force for years, with the world temporarily forgetting his existence until his metaphorical "rebirth". ", Speed is literally distance divided by time. Wow, really? Wally can create weapons out of nothing with Speed Force. Why are you comparing Batman to the Gambler? The Flash must run around 5.6 times the speed of light, but keep in mind that even though that is his top speed, he chooses not to run at that speed due to keeping care of the risks of harming anyone and anything. He was trapped in the Speed Force for years, with the world temporarily forgetting his existence until his metaphorical "rebirth". [46] A possessed Amethyst almost murdered Wally, but he was rescued by the timely arrival of his children and Maxine Baker, the daughter of Animal Man. 3) nope, movement of electric impulses is a point. [27], Unfortunately, this triumph would prove to be false. The Flash Family gathered at the Flash Museum to go into the Force and hopefully find Barry and bring him home. After she was taken to S.T.A.R. LOL How much sense does it make ? For other uses of "The Flash", see The Flash. King Gordy & Big T) 10. So putting the absolute strongest Sonic and the absolute strongest Flash seems at least to me to be the most appropriate It would be like you reached your destination before even getting started. Bathroom: Wally woke up bright and early to shoot hoops with Robin. At least, it's his destiny on his Earth. [44] They teamed up with Amethyst and Justice League Dark, who told them that Eclipso was heading to the Black Heart, a gateway to the core of Gemworld. Wally dominates because of what he is capable of. Wally was immune to the glaive's effects and fought most of the villains off but Starbreaker managed to reach the glaive and was possessed by Eclipso, who flew off to attack Gemworld. The Flashes fled through a portal created by Doctor Fate with the Darkest Knight in hot pursuit.[26]. He was 89. IMP is garbage, Wally has a lot more hax than IMP. (I know he and Barry outran the Black Racer, but didn't he also out run the Black Flash at an earlier point? Forum Posts. The problem for him was saving the entire Radioland planet faster than the all powerful gamblers could enact their punishment, which leads us to the "tuning every radio on the planet in zeptoseconds" feat which, as I've said, is perfectly quantifiable. Dark Matter surrounded him as he heard evil laughter echo through reality. According to Superman, the inflationary epoch of the Big Bang only expanded to a size of 60 trillion light years nigh instantly. Wally references mass and then gives a clear statement for the kind of mass he is referring to. I agree! For simplicity's sake, if you assume there is 1 radio for every square kilometer on earth (that is lowballing it greatly), that means he was traveling 500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times faster than light, or 500 septillion. You know what else is impossible? The Darkest Knight summoned a horde of Dark Flashes to chase them down. In JLA (1997): Issue # 89, Wally West saves half a million people from an exploding nuclear warhead. I literally ignored 3/4ths of the earths surface, which contains, you know, a lot of boats that have radios, just to make it simple and nearly impossible to be contrarian about it like you are right now. Irey had already safely absorbed the surge of Speed Force energy and would release it over the next few minutes, giving her and Wally time to talk. The cosmic gamblers aren't omnipotent, either, just really powerful. There's no pause. Teleport happens in absolute 0 second. At the instant time resumed, the four ran into the horde, smashing through their line and racing towards the Chair. Stealing the speed of billions at one time to outrun instantaneous teleportation, Oh yeah, he also kicked Wonder Woman with the mass of a small moon. After five days Wally revived Poison Ivy and had his five days younger self kill that Wally. I know this is a few months late, but I didn't even see this board. According to Rann, we know that the DC Universe is more than 100 trillion light years in diameter at present time (since it continued expanding after creation). However, just before Barry can sever Wally's connection to the Speed Force, he's transported to the prehistoric Earth and notices that it feels different from any other time he time traveled, as now he had somehow possessed the body of a prehistoric man but noted that he still has his speed (unlike the rest of the speedsters who lost their powers). [11] Afterwards, the Justice League encouraged the Titans to disband, which they do. After a chance encounter with his personal hero, The Flash, Wally was struck by lightning and doused in the same chemicals Barry was when he was given superpowers, an event . 2: If Superman were allowed to use time travel in a race with someone who had teleportation then yes, he could get to a designated destination before the teleporter by arriving there before the race starts. Thats why i still say It isin't possible to be faster than teleport. Velocity = Distance / Time. You're making it up to suit yourself. [48], The Flash visited the Titans Academy with Jai and Irey, pondering the idea of enrolling his children on the academy. @dredeuced: 1) STILL that distance is just speculation. After seeing that the Titans had handled it, he left telling Wally it was "good to see him again". Wally West is The Flash, the fastest man in the multiverse. Thanks for telling me to google the definition of the word instant while completely ignoring what I said and why I said it ( I was mocking your use of the concept of "logical possibility" while you're talking about giant robot gamblers teleporting). Justice League Vol 2 #50(July, 2016). Velocity = 5.67643828354848e+29 meters / 10^-36. A guy in a red jumpsuit with a cowl running at superspeeds and being powered by an infinite energy source that governs time and movement. [41], Michael Holt offered Wally a job with Terrifictech. The Titans then arrived just after Red X murdered the psychic villain before fleeing the scene with Nevermore, who told the Titans not to follow them. The action of Flash saving half a million people before a nuke goes off. Barry's nephew, Wally West, took over the mantle in 1986 and wore it until 2011; he reappeared and has been donning it again since 2016. For more information, including why Reverse-Flash (one of the fastest speedsters in comic books) always has red lightning, you can check out Comics Explained and their explanation of the Speedster Lightning on YouTube: [1]. In the smaller version I provided above, you'll notice that New 52 Wally's lightning is red, Barry's is yellow, and the original Wally West's lightning is white. Additionally, The Flash is able to achieve this feat of speed by vibrating his molecules so that he can pass through obstacles, something no ordinary human can do. Wally reached the Chair an instant before the Dark Flashes could catch him and disappeared with it into the Speed Force. One of these is when Wally became the first speedster ever to enter the Speed Force and then exit it of his own volition (something that he does a number of times afterward, including pulling his . 0. DC Database is a FANDOM Comics Community. Moving around the world in milliseconds. As a result, he suffered a mental breakdown. 3) you can't do any action(to use teleport in this case) without movement of electric impulses in body. This edit will also create new pages on Comic Vine for: Until you earn 1000 points all your submissions need to be vetted by other Wally can resist planetary TP unless the character who takes him down is real fast and sneaky with the TP. Answer (1 of 5): I'll compile lists for Rebirth Wally West, and Post-Crisis Wally West. Abstracts also do think and react, across both dc and marvel universes, and they've been shown to do as much all the time. The long-running debate between fans of DC Comics' two most iconic heroes has been reignited with the release of Superman Comic #709. The time and distance and amount of people saved were all things the writer intended to happen, too, so why does the "less than lightspeed" part of the feat get special treatment, whereas everything else is ignored? As a child, he developed a fascination with the superhero The Flash, having no idea that the speedster knew his aunt Iris in Central City. 6) i heard that flash once went across the universe in a second. - Early Wally West claims Savitar is stronger then him. Starting a race at 0.0 and getting there at -0.1 isn't logically impossible if you can time travel. So, even Wally's greatest light speed feats pale next to his time travel feats. The Speed Force enhances Wally's physical strength to levels superior than the average human being. Wally is MFTL, while Silver Sufrer has better direct feats on Travel Speed, Wally is still vastly faster considering that speed comes from how fast you think more than move and Wally has Surfer beat all week and twice on Sunday on Reaction Speed feats. Anyone with the basest sense of deduction understands what I stated and can agree with it. 8 Beds. Formerly the protg and successor of Barry Allen, he was trapped in the Speed Force for years, with the world forgetting his history until his metaphorical "rebirth". The one thing we know is Flash does save half a million people faster than a nuke can kill a single person. After purging the darkness from her home dimension of Earth 32 and the colliding Earth 13, Wally travelled to the next Earth he was meant to assist, but was unexpectedly reunited with Jai and Irey West,[19] only to learn that they were inhabitants of a new Dark Multiverse Earth created from his own fears of losing his children an Earth that Tempus Fuginaut was now tasking him with destroying. Opal promised to recharge the glaive's magic and use it to seal Eclipso away again. Million > quintillion ? "Our objective is speed, not distance and time. Just before he fully faded away to become one with the Speed Force yet again, Barry Allen remembered him and pulled him out, saving him, and proclaiming that he remembered.[1]. He recently found himself in the possession of a killer copy of Sonny Rollins' famous Way Out West album, one that was clearly superior to everything he used to think sounded just fine. $1,198,000. A lot of people can just time travel with technology, ala Kadabra or the cosmic treadmill if you want to just stick to Flash lore. [50] Nevermore began to transform into a demon which would destroy the world, and Red X insisted on protecting him from the Titans at all costs, believing they would kill Dane to prevent the apocalypse. Welcome to Flash comics. He has also been seen single-handedly reconstructing several ruined buildings and moving heavy beams and girders into place, which typically weigh around 400 lbs a piece. background barry allen pseudo-adopting a central-city-hated metahuman on sight . Well, outrunning the Black Racer to the end of time in one panel isnt quantifiable exactly, but if I knew theoretical quantum physics, I could give you an idea of how much that makes lightspeed look freaking pathetic. Dick Grayson's apartment building in Bludhaven was bombed by an assassin working for his arch-enemy Blockbuster. Directly after that, though, he was definitely not time traveling. Their ratio is equal to 3.98e+29, which is the Lorentz factor . Only possibility is that teleporter wasted time in thinking. [33] One of the dark counterparts unleashed by the Darkest Knight was an alternate version of Wally who called himself the Fastest Killer Alive, created from Wally's fear that the Sanctuary disaster had not been an accident. Stated at 31:30 from Ben again. Time travel itself is nonsense unless done by omnipotent guy who is beyond logic itself. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for The Flash #768-771, Annual (2021) Wally West returns as The Fastest Man Alive. Think logically, as you're so fond of. Wally began to create a new universe from the shards of the old ones, when he suddenly realised it wasnt working. You can't go somewhere before 0 second. His former club Reims announced Fontaine's death on Wednesday March 1 . 4) Anyways that teleporter who lost to flash too had to think for using teleport. Wally is powerful and almost unbeatable unless he's bound by the limits of being in character. Superman, for example, has a top speed of 1,000 miles per hour, whereas Wally West has a top speed of 2,531 miles per hour or Mach 3. Now tell me, is this a direct statement from the writer? So yes, while Flash DID have to move before time travelling, he was so fast that the difference between the race starting and him getting to time travel wasn't an existing unit of time -- this is because, due to all the energy he absorbed, he had effectively infinite speed. This Wally also gained super-speed and was currently acting as the newest Kid Flash. THANK YOU!!!!! But, anyone who can time travel can arrive at a place at a specific point in time faster than a teleporter relative to that teleporter's timeline, yes. Every abstract I've ever seen in comics seems to think. March 33 (feat. there is nothing in this case to contradict logic. It was likely just a local area. The Powers and Abilities of Wally West. feat. A direct statement from the writer. Let's, for ease's sake, say Flash starts running at 00:01. If you can show proof for minimum distance he has to move then i can accept it. You're right, writers don't write with a calculator in hand to make sure everything syncs up. 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